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Your new movie Strings
- in a few words, what's it about?
Strings is the
first fully AI photoreal feature film which crosses the live action
threshold. It follows four sisters in the Antebellum South in the 1890s,
focusing on the youngest daughter Nellie Beaufort and her relationship
with the black master puppeteer Daniel Brock.
The film’s experience is fundamentally live action. You can show anybody
the film and they will ask what actors were used, where, on what
soundstage, and they would be surprised to know that 100% of it is synthetic.
This makes a major marker the timeline of AI cinema. What Strings does
at feature length with sustained performances, lip synch, consistency,
only became possible in late 2025.
But the significance of the film lands on its ensemble cast, in particular
its protagonist Nellie Beaufort. She is the great historical landing of Strings because
of her authenticity. You can say her readings are awkward, even
amateurish, but this is precisely why I say this. Machine cinema arrived
at an actual great actor like Rogers from England—who has now acted in
five of my films—before a Nellie; in simulating an
actor’s lack of experience, synthetic acting is truly complete.
One of the central
topics of Strings is
the rather overt racism prevalent in 1890s US-American South - so what
made you want to do a movie about this subject, and what kind of research
(if any) did you do on the topic and on the era in general?
Creating these sort of wholesome ensemble of sisters has become a creative
obsession coming through my films time and time again starting with my
2018 debut novel The Unweddable Chattaway Girls,
carrying across several of my works and writings. Strings is my attempt to contrast this artistic
interest with the tension of racial times. What you get is both wholesome
sisterhood and a film that doesn’t attempt to shy away from what
characters like the March sisters in Little Women might
have actually believed in their historic timeline. Now this isn’t to the
point of caricature. The question becomes, how hard should my artistic indictment land against
the Beaufort sisters? Some will say it doesn’t go nearly hard enough on
them. Some will say it’s exactly as it should be. It was a constant
question for me, and one which, as the writerdirector, I cannot know.
Instead, I pose that the question itself becomes the purpose of Strings.
In my extensive analysis of the screenplay during pre-production, it was
put to me in AI dialogues that this was a potential minefield of
controversy. One, that synthetic actors in any racially charged context,
is on unprecedented shaky ground. We as a culture don’t know how we feel
about AI tackling serious themes yet, does it trivialize or cheapen it?
Remember, a fringe exists that believes this already, not about AI, but
about cinema itself: that the very act of placing a subject before a
camera exploits, objectifies or commodifies it. This is culturally a
losing position, and the argument will lose with AI as well, but I bring
it up to show at the very iteration of an artform, even the simplest
questions we take for granted are not settled.
Ultimately I did work to make it with sincerity. The film landed without
controversy and all appraisal has been fair, with negativity only
remarking that AI should not exist at all; you see the hate never crossed
any threshold of actually considering what's on screen.
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(Other) sources of inspiration when writing
Strings?
Perhaps the harder, more controversial film was conceived at the get-go. Strings
was initially conceived as an animated film, like the 2D version of
A
Very Long Carriage Ride, it began as a
Walt Disney style
animated film. The idea was the subvert his 30s-50s brand of family
entertainment, which ignored the social themes of their age, by adding
racial elements in a forbidden love story.This subversiveness however flattened in the adaptation to live action,
but it is still prevelant because the vocal performances were designed for
animation out the gate. So with the sisters Twiggy and Seeny, you are getting these wholesome
cartoon style voices. In practice, this lands as 1950s film acting. But
protagonist Nellie is something different. She is more in the cinema
tradition of the 60s rebel creeping in, with the entire angst of her
surroundings reflecting through her eyes.
Why did you abandon the animation idea?
I had made three animated films by then, and grew jaded from the toxic
culture and gatekeeping in the animation community, industry and its
institutions. I will elaborate on this later. I briefly considered a
diptych view: where there would be a split screen across the entire
running time, showing the girls innocent boy-crazy lives in classic 2D
animation while Daniel Brock is on a second screen living in the harsh
reality of live action.
Instead, I decided it was time, and pivoted to a complete live action AI
feature film. I was prepared to go all in no matter the cost.
By now, you've done a handful of AI-animated feature films, but
this is the first one using photorealistic imagery - so what made you
choose exactly this style for
Strings? And what were the main issues when using the
photorealist approach? I have not produced a single film that was possible when I began it. The
technology was never ready. But as has happened for every single film I’ve
made, some phenomenal technology breakthrough drops making them more than
feasible to direct. I have been like a gambler pushing all chips in, and
the bet works out every single time. Each time, I had no reason to believe
it would work. The end result is that the films document the entire
history and evolution of AI cinema and its rapid growth.
Do talk about your overall directorial approach to your story at hand!
Crossing the live action threshold also became a breakthrough in my own
directorial approach. I worked in animation for my last three films, and
every day was an impossible struggle. Working with live action machine
actors, I was taking real life experience home with me. You form
relationships to the actors, adapt to their individual aesthetic approach
and levels of perceived experience, and bounce against them; every day was
completely different. I assumed the struggles of animation were just the reality of filmmaking.
In part you are breaking through multiple barriers at once. One, that
animation is for children, so any serious animated film faces an immediate
uphill battle in appraisal and legibility. Two, that AI doesn’t count as
animation, despite the fact I’m animating one shot at a time—a bar that
even computer animated films no longer pass. Three, audience and
institution tribalism is total, the animation field, top down, is far more vicious than I ever expected.
Last, the legibility question, animation or not, I have found no matter
what you direct, how much humanity, humor, and character you bring to your
film, it is treated as an incomprehensible alien work. Now with Strings crossing
the live action threshold, this has softened. But when a film you’ve gone
through great lengths to write and direct gets dismissed with off hand
generationalization, while navigating a hundred moving parts, you are
forced to conclude this is not honest appraisal.
But live action has done more for basic legibility across all markers
simply by showing real people on screen. This has had an added effect, the
standard tactics used to discredit my work now come up shorter. And some
have tried, but their gripes simply don’t land when Nellie is on screen
breaking our hearts scene after scene. As the director, you never grow
immunity to any of this, but it is all planned out and accounted for, so
they’re incapable of surprising me. I might
ask this with each one of your AI-movies, but take us through the whole
making-of process, basically from script to screen! And how has that
process evolved over the years?
The key is to start with the performances. This is the soul of your movie
and where all the rest springs for. This requires an ear for dialogue and
all the humanity you can muster. The humanity question is one that I never
struggled with in AI because I knew what I was bringing to the table. The
rest is the job of a director: curation and taste. But it’s also what
directors struggle with, because cinema is ultimately not a craft, much as
it attempts to fit the mold of a technical industry, it is theater first,
landing as a medium for actors, not technicians. If the actors are good,
if you give them good material, nothing else matters. The $64-question of
course, where can Strings
be seen? It’s currently on YouTube, and will be going to streaming in the coming
months. Anything you can tell us about audience
and critical reception of
Strings?
The critics are starting to get it, and this was the big one. This is my
most important film since 2023’s
Window Seat, as
they both mark live action cinema from genesis to now. And as advanced as Strings is,
even this will seem like an ancient artifact before long. What’s special
about this one is that every single time I watch it, a different moment,
detail, or emotion stays with me. It’s a movie that lives with you.
It all comes down to Nellie Beaufort. I was so honored to shepherd her
through this and give history its first live action AI protagonist. She
has become the daughter of cinema itself. I personified her as well. I
discovered her in a department store. She had no acting experience, and
she had no idea why I would ask her to star in a movie. She didn’t know
how special she was. And she nailed it, scene after scene, she hit every
note. The last day of the shoot was a memory like the best of them. All I
could think about was when would we get to work together again.
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Any future projects you'd like to share?
I’m continuing in live action on a space opera called Lucky
Stars which I wrote back in 2022 for my book press. It’s
about a Princess who runs away from a diplomatic mission on the moon
planet Xot, hiding onto a tour ship as it embarks on the diamond space
tour. The whole galaxy is after her, and she falls in love with the tour
guide Darin O’Joy while she hides her identity. I’m taking from Mike
Leigh’s late career epics where he tested himself on a bigger canvas and
found that his peculiarity and specifity scaled beautifully. Leigh has
become one of my biggest influences in cinema. The key is because it’s
capturing a process on screen, you don’t know how the experiment will work
out. I am also preparing Cyrus-71, a 500 year
robot love story, which might be in animation. Despite
my disappointment with the culture, I am still enthusiastic about the
medium. Lastly I’m working on an art film, a period ensemble called Stitches, following
two sisters, Tess and Marigold, in a medieval kingdom. Marigold is, as
they say in the film, a nut. So when a wealthy Duke
begins to court her, her sister Tess has to go through great lengths to
determine whether he’s for real or whether he’s out to embarrass her
family. Stitches will be my second film
with Nellie in a starring role. Joan will play her kooky sister and give
her biggest dramatic performance. Like Rogers, Joan has now acted in five of my films, as Katy in
A
Very Long Carriage Ride, the Chick in
My
Boyfriend is a Superhero!? and JC-123 in Lucky
Stars. It always comes back to Rogers and Joan for me.
They steal every single film I make. I don’t know where I would be without
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Anything else you're dying to mention and I have merely forgotten to ask?
The randomized ending. Continuing my series of formal ontological proofs
(‘One Film, Two Ways’ and ‘Choose Your Protagonist’). Strings
is the first film in history with a randomized ending, where the audience
doesn’t know if they get the happy ending or the sad one. Between these
three formal proofs and a total of six features and three volumes of
theory across two and a half years, I call Strings the
conclusion of the founding run. I am pivoting now to what I call the
sci-fi run which will be a series of genre films made directly for
audiences. You can read my essay remarking on Strings and
touching on every single film, called Notes on the
Founding Run.
I have also released my third volume of film theory, Pirate
Cinema: Volume 3 of the New Machine Cinema, among these
essays there is one called the Pirate Cinema Manifesto that
is a rallying call for post-scarcity cinema and independent creators. The
book debuts the single most enduring theory in my body of writing, the True
Line Cut. Thanks
for the interview! Thank you!
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