Your new movie Fluid Boy
- in a few words, what is it about?
Fluid Boy tells the story of an unsuspecting innocent actress who
gets more than she bargained for when she attends an audition for a new
indie horror film that soon escalates into a full blown snuff movie
The film does serve a deeper purpose
however and looks at the exploitative nature of the film industry and how
it destroys souls and creates monsters!
Wade: Fluids, fluids, lots and lots of fluids, and one poor miss
that has to deal with them...
How did you come up
with the concept of Fluid Boy?
Jason was wanting to make a snuff film for another project and we got
chatting on the phone, which is usually how menacing ideas come about, and
then Fluid Boy
was given birth too, it's not a romantic comedy, but
I suppose that depends on your idea of what's comedic and romantic.
I have always had an interest/fascination in the sub-genre of snuff films,
and have attempted to make a few entries into this area of filmmaking, but
nothing I was ever too pleased with. I wanted to shoot on a retro format
which adds to the grittiness and overall look and sell-ability of it
actually being a snuff. I happened to come into possession of a few VHS
cameras and an opportunity presented itself to me, I did not want to delay
anymore - this had been on my wish list to make for a long time!
talk about your directorial approach for a bit?
I wanted to gross the audience out, I knew we would be compared to some
very good and extremely hard hitting films out there so I was conscious to
put my own spin on it and while saluting these other classics also make my
own mark and unique entry into this sub-genre.
I wanted to make sure we was all
comfortable and confident in what we were doing and all singing from the
same song sheet. I was happy with the very small team I had assembled and
had faith in them, I had spoken in great detail about exactly what I wanted
and hoped to achieve from the project so when it came to shooting we could
roll all the cameras and create utter madness!
guessing that much of Fluid
Boy was improvised on the spot - so how much of an outline did you
have for the movie's events, and how much of a strain was it to come up
with stuff to get the film to feature length?
I had the initial idea and as with this style of film was conscious that
there was a very basic plot outline and does not take long to tell the
story! What I hoped would help carry the story and make it feature length
was to create tension and a sense of uneasiness throughout the film to
give the audience a real journey to go on! I spoke to Wade as I knew he
would be able to carry an audience with his performance, as he had done in
our previous collaboration Twink.
I spoke to both Wade & Samantha [Samantha
Keller interview - click here] about
what was going to happen and were the film would start and where we needed
to end it. When I approached Wade to first do the film he got very excited
and bounced a lot of ideas around with me which helped give me the
confidence that there was enough ideas to fill the running time we were
setting out to get. We did have a slightly different ending planned out at
first but I think it all worked out for the best.
The complete dialogue was improvised that I
know some cast hate, but I believe if it is done right and everyone is on
the same wave length then you can get some amazing moments. Wade had
worked with me on improv before and enjoys it and is also very good at it
so I had a lot of trust and faith in him to deliver the goods. The last
film I worked with Samantha on, Impotent Killer, was fully scripted so
this was a complete different style for her to work on with me, but she
did even better than I hoped for, she thoroughly took the character on and
brought her to life. Once we got going we flew through it, the only
problem we faced was how long we had the location for, time was against us
as it always is with filmmaking - time can be your worst enemy!
Samantha Keller with Jason on the set of
Wade: It's a style we're probably
more comfortable working with than a structured script, so banging out the
madness just tends to come naturally to us- I find scripts so limited and
often can prevent whacky oneliners and cringe moments popping up, so for
this type of film I think improvisation was the right way to go. I mean
c'mon, it's hard to remember your lines while taking a dump on someone's
about your respective characters for a bit? And since you've done quite a
few movies together I'm guessing you're having a rather good rapport with
one another - so how come in the films you're both in you always play
antagonistic characters? And how much fun is it actually to be one
another's bane in these films?
Wade: I think the
great thing about this particular flick is we took the opportunity to
generally abuse each other, and take sly digs, it's how we show love for
one another!!! Having the good rapport is obviously a must, and I guess
it's handy when feeling comfortable enough to spit venomous remarks at
It's great fun, we have a very good working relationship together and help
move each other along with our joint projects. We make a good team and so
it can be very amusing being such enemies on screen, and in Fluid Boy
there are a few rude digs at one another personally! We were both ready
and expecting it - that's the kind of crazy nutters we are! But then I
guess you have to be a bit mad to make a film like Fluid Boy!
Playing such clashing characters gives you
the opportunity to really go all out and mad with your character and have
a lot of fun, and get some outrageous content, which is exactly what we
want and like.
How easy or hard was it
to actually cast the female part in your film? And what can you tell us
about Samantha Keller, how did you find her, and what was your
Samantha Keller, a little worse for wear
Samantha approached me a while back as an actress looking for parts and
she had a great interest in the horror genre, which of course is great for
my films! She caught me at a good time as I was just about to embark on
making a short exploitation film for the Grindsploitation anthology. I
sent her the script for my entry Impotent Killer that she really
liked and was happy to come on board. That shoot went great, and I was
really pleased with how dedicated Samantha was and how easy she was to
work with, and as I got chatting I realised we shared the same love and
passion for horror cinema and liked the same movies etc and she had a very
good understanding of the genre.
Soon after Impotent Killer, Fluid Boy
was on the cards so without even thinking I offered the role to
Samantha as I knew it was a very hard role to fill and one not too many
actresses would be keen to do! I needed someone who was not afraid to go
that extra mile, and someone who believed in the project and didn’t mind
being involved in an extremely controversial film! I was delighted she
agreed but to be honest thought she would as I believed it was her cup of
It was even easier working with Samantha on
this shoot than it was on the last one, but it was a very different kind
of shoot. She very quickly understood the film I was trying to make and
fell straight into character, it was a real breeze and pleasure to work
The film depicts events pretty much
in real time - so how long did it actually take to shoot it?
We amazingly got the film wrapped in 5 hours!
can you tell us about the shoot as such, and the on-set atmosphere?
Shits and giggles...literally!!!
The atmosphere on the shoot was great, we all gelled very well
together, had a real laugh and good time. It went very fast, if anything I
could have done with more time!
Filming this movie was great fun, it took a
while for me to set up as I used 6 cameras! I was shooting on HD, HDV
& VHS! There was no way anyone else could have been involved shooting
this as there was nowhere to hide other crew! It was like Big Brother -
we could see every inch of that room on camera!
you can tell us about critical and audience reception yet? And any idea
when and where Fluid Boy
might be released onto the general public?
So far I am really pleased with the audience reaction - people seem to
like it more than I thought they would which is a great thing. I always
worry and am nervous when people first watch one of the new films, and
this film is certainly not to everyone's taste!
It should be seeing a DVD release in the
near future from WWMM.
Wade: I guess it'll be a little
while before any home releases, but we have an American release confirmed
and in discussions for others. A few reviews have started dripping in, all
good so far (thank fuck), with this one in particular I cannot wait to see
customer reviews, It'll be a test of how much people are willing to
stomach from a sick flick
projects you'd like to share?
I’m returning to the pre-production desk to plan future projects
later this year, as for now I’m sorting distribution out for several
projects. I have many releases coming soon including Fluid Boy,
Necrophiliac: The Lustful Dead, Exploited &
Lustful Desires and my
entries to Grindsploitation 1 & 2 and Virus of the Dead:
I’m also currently in postproduction with Eileen Daly’s feature film
Witches Can Be Bitches that I am editing.
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